In this latest episode of Plain Talking, our first interview concerns the rise to power by the Taliban in Afghanistan and the plight of underground Christians. Gethin speaks to Andrew Boyd of Release International about how the ‘invisible church’ is managing to survive.

Then we discuss North Korea, the country where Christians face the most extreme persecution for their faith and holds the top position on Open Doors’ World Watch List. Escapee and convert Timothy Cho (of Open Doors) describes the conditions under which an estimated 3-400,000 Christians live in this oppressive country.

Finally, Br David Jardine helps us deal with anxiety by sharing his experience – and advice – learned from serving in tough areas: Northern Ireland’s notorious Crumlin Road Gaol, and Brooklyn, New York, where 3,000 murders are recorded every year.